Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Fair and Balanced

I always squirm a little bit when I hear Fox News refer to itself as fair and Balanced. Anyone with half a brain would realize that it is no more fair and balanced than, say, CNN.

I did have a lightbulb moment today when I realized that if you look at it from a broader perspective, as in the entire Media, this little slice of conservative main stream media does help balance out the political scale. In fact, if we had about 3 more news channels just like Fox News, the distribution of main street media might then be considered fair and balanced.


Sctobrien said...


I would completely agree with you if not for a few things.

For one, FoxNews does not sell itself as a "conservative" news channel. It sells itself as a "fair and balanced" channel.

On top of that, FoxNews and its reporters are factually wrong on many, many things. Yes, people will say a person like Keith Olbermann is a liberal bull dog, but it is easy to watch his show and shows on Comedy Central for just one night to catch all the errors that are broadcast on FoxNews.

Also, some time open your mind and study the words used at Fox by their reporters. Their words are loaded and purposely chosen to drive a point, rather than report a point.

Lastly, to compare CNN bias/slant to FoxNews bias/slant is laughable. Now, if you tried to compare the POLITICAL shows on Fox to those on MSNBC, I would agree with you.


Scruff said...

Sctobrien: Are you saying Fox News is MORE or LESS politically biased than CNN?

O'Brien's Briar Patch said...


Fox is absolutely more political slanted than CNN and it always has been. If Diane had compared Fox to MSNBC (political programming wise) I would certainly agree with the two being similar. But with that, one thing Fox does not do is claim it is a conservative alternative of news, which it clearly is.

And like I earlier typed, any honest person who studies language and the use of words can easily detect the editing process at FoxNews when it comes to getting particular points across.

Diane Vespa said...

OBP - You are deliberately avoiding my main point, which is that Fox News whom I would agree is slanted heavily to the right is an aberration of main stream media. If we had about 3 other stations plus a few magazines and newspapers just like them it might then be a level playing field.

LVB said...


At least you're acknowledging that Fox is mainstream media. A number of Fox anchors like to denigrate the "mainstream media", apparently relishing the underdog position while simultaneously holding the #1 spot on Nielsen ratings. This has always annoyed me, since if the #1 spot isn't mainstream, I'm not sure what is.

I disagree that we need 3 more Foxes to balance things out. What is the ratio of conservative to liberal talk radio stations? It must be quite high, and as a group they reach a huge audience.

Diane Vespa said...

I have often wondered why their are no successful Liberal talk radio shows. Care to speculate?

LVB said...

My guess is that Liberals get more of their infotainment from the web/podcasts/etc., so the left pretty much abandoned the AM/FM dial.

I listen to both forms (and views), but I'm ready to ditch AM. I can either listen to a commercial-free podcast, or I can listen to AM with 2 minutes of talk interrupted by 5 minutes of commercials.

Diane Vespa said...

I agree, the number and length of the commercials are ridiculous! Although 1470 WMBD has GREAT local news coverage.

sctobrien said...


I can show you study after study after study that clearly shows of politically reported shows, male, white conservatives are overwhelmingly over represented.

Sadly, one reason I think too many people ignore this is that they have a poor idea of how liberals and conservatives are defined and especially that of liberals.

As for more channels like FoxNews, so far only MSNBC and it's prime time can be considered as reporting from one side as does Fox. CNN is not even close. And if you must remain to be one of those who keep complaining about the "left wing media bias" I suggest you take the time to open the tv listings and do an examination of just what shows are on the news channels and who are the regular guests.

Diane Vespa said...

Scott - As I'm reading your comment I can't help but think of that chick from CNN smarting off to the tea party participants....

Atomic Lib Smasher said...

If all you're used to is the left wing stenographers for Obama from CNN, MSNBC, the New York Times, etc. then yes, Fox News is going to appear to be right wing seeing as how conservatives get no play on the other networks.

Anonymous said...

There is no such thing as relevant objective news reporting today like it was before. I heard Kira Phillips on CNN reporting on either Spears or Hilton, which is not news to begin with, say that she "was a useless human being". Good lord! How can a credible news channel allow that kind of commentary in its reporting on the air from an anchor? Then you have MSNBC allowing this Hollywood reviewer Musto or whatever his name is saying all the natsy things about Ms. California having her penis removed,etc.. yea that's tolerance just like the gay community expects to get from others but doesnt want to give to others and MSNBC allows that over the air. Someone give me a example similar to that from Fox News.

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